Debt of Service

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12 months ago
Bureaucracy for the win.
12 months ago
WTF? Our government starts wars, and then charges our soldiers for fighting in them? Obviously the guns are pointed in the wrong direction.
11 months ago
Umm, "we" started the war?
Also, I think it's hilarious that there are people that think Busch makes money off of oil. Get a life and read a book that wasn't written by a liberal piece of shit.
11 months ago
Yo, nefspur
perhaps you would like to "investigate" how much stock GWB has in Halliburton and what that stock is currently worth?
HINT: the answers have 5 to 7 digits in them.
2nd HINT: here is a graph of Halliburton's stock so you can see how nicely things are going for everyone. http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.aspx?Symbol=hal
11 months ago
rhyolite, I agree. This clip reminds me of the movie "Iraq For Sale: The War Profiteers." As for dealing with people like nefariousprior, the following quote comes to mind: "Don't argue with an idiot. He [or she] will drag you down to his [or her] level and then beat you with experience."
11 months ago
nataneltigre:
Thanks for the quote. I hadn't heard it before. Hope you don't mind if i use it sometime.
After I looked closer at Nef's post I realized he was talking about cheap domestic beer instead of the president. i guess there is a chance he is right after all.
11 months ago
lol,lol,lol,lol that my man is my goverment at thier best. you have hit the nail on the head, bingo bagno bongo. you win the gold star, oh how i loathe them and thier bureaucracy.
11 months ago
nefarious... oh I'm sorry... I thought that's what "pre-emptive war" meant. Did I miss something? Did they attack us? Oh gosh, please educate me oh wise one.
11 months ago
Regardless of how you feel about the war in Iraq, its entirely indisputable that we did start the war.
11 months ago
Nefarious it sounds like you need to stop worrying about political affiliation and start reading books by people who aren't idiots.
12 months ago
so, what is he being charged for......?????
11 months ago
he ruined his bullet proof condoms. are any of words misspelled ? please please i must know.
12 months ago
At the end, the reporter says this guy is going to "reach out to the Army to intervene." Umm... I thought it was the army that was charging him!! If not, then who???? This reporter was negligent in reporting this little detail! She only implies that it was the military or the government were the ones billing him.

Anyone know for certain?
12 months ago
she said NY senator schumer is going to reach out to the army, not the guy.
12 months ago
As a former soldier I can tell you that no one is charged with out reason so he must have been found negligent. Whenever you get a piece of equipment you assume responsibility for that equipment if it’s your fault it gets lost or broken duh! You have to pay for it.

But, seriously $704.16 come on dude you can’t pay that to not get it reported to the credit agency’s?

Now on a serious note: Does anyone have 700 bucks I can borrow?

Lol…
12 months ago
uhh.. but this was received 4 years after his service? the way they reported it, they made it sound like he was getting billed for this summer when he hasn't been serving for the past 4 years (meaning its just bullshit).

and yea, if they aren't giving good reason for me to pay the money and it seems like an erroneous charge, I wouldn't be paying it either (and you're a fool if you would).
11 months ago
Yeah, I was in too and have delt with the bean counters, and they should tell you what you are being charged for and let you dispute the charges. How would you like to get charged for a new K-pot or SAPI plate that you "damaged" by taking piece of shrapnel.
11 months ago
“Four years” that’s pretty fast for Army paperwork! Lol… I find it hard to believe that that he is having to pay for taking a piece of shrapnel damaging his equipment a more likely scenario is that he left his Kevlar, cot, and sleeping bag on a jump (which falls under the category of stupid hurts!) “I had to laugh at his line of I did my time and served my country!” I felt like saying apparently not very well! I served for 12 years and 2 tours and never had to pay a dime! That’s probably why he’s still a Specialist E-4 after 4 years and not a Sergeant!

So I say suck it up and pay the Bill “Nancy Boy!”
12 months ago
Wow...that's some serious bullshit, right there. Lost or damaged equipment? I don't suppose it's donned upon the U.S military that THERE"S A WAR GOING ON! Loss and damage are what it's all about!
12 months ago
Dude, don't turn this into an anti-U.S. military post. Those are getting old. Yes I am pretty sure that the U.S. Military realizes there is a war going on. Unless they think a million Soldiers, Airmen, Marines, and Sailors all took extended leave in the Middle East at the same time. Like RUWA said, you sign for a piece of gear and now you are accountable for it. There are proper procedures to go through if you break it or it becomes lost in the heat of battle. I'm willing to say he didn't do that and now it's biting him in the ass.
12 months ago
Don't worry, as Canadians our soldiers will only be liable if they misplace their peashooter, or musket, or Seaking helicopter.
11 months ago
isn't the most used piece of equipment in the canadin military the white handkerchief/flag?
11 months ago
Hey Rob, who the hell did we EVER surrender to?
11 months ago
Throbber, dude, the Canadians are outstanding soldiers bro. Gotta give credit where its due:

They absolutely kicked our ass in 1812 and have been doing good work ever since. They were the only division to reach their goal in Normandy, and actually had to backpedal so we could catch up. And, they still hung in there with us after we bombed them accidently in Afghanistan a few years ago.

My hats off to the Maple flag folks.

Now, if they could just fix their roads, jeez...
11 months ago
Hey Torc, there were 5 beaches taken in Normandy. Utah Beach is the most popular, and who do you think took it? Americans you dumbass. You are an ignorant S.O.B. so STF up and stop spewing liquid crap from your mouth unless you know what your talking about.
11 months ago
Very nice words.

So how come these very nice words come out of you about us...yet on another thread you knock this country down?

I think you'd better make up your mind; is it a love/hate thing? Is it depending on the weather?

Me, personally, I always remain consistant: Never knock the U.S. or it's people (who are great)....but got no use for the idiot (or his hacks) in the Oval Office.

So maybe a little clarification on YOUR part would be in order.

Know whut ah mean?
11 months ago
Torc, on a more serious note, it wasn't the War of 1812, it was the US Civil War. We just couldn't defend off the great general.......UM what was his name. There were so many great generals in that war.
11 months ago
So lemme get this straight:

The Administration is currently paying $12 Billion (that's a "B") a month (that's an "m"), plus, they've "outsourced" the hunt for Bin Laden by giving $1 Billion (that's a "B" again) to Mushariff to find.....with NO accountability as to how Mr. Mushariff spent that money.....and they go after one GI for $700
hundred (that's an "s").

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.







11 months ago
*to find Bin Laden
12 months ago
When I got out of the Marines I had to check out of supply and account for any missing gear and fill out a statement and pay for it. We were constantly doing gear checks before, during, and after deployments and even in garrison. I don't see how this cat can get out of the Army, especially after being in a warzone, and not have settled his gear account. It's not that hard to chalk up some gear as a battlefield loss if you go through the proper channels.
11 months ago
I totally agree devious1,

Anyone that’s been in the Army knows how much they stress accountability! If we charged everything off in the name of WAR what’s the point of holding soldiers accountable. He who is faithful in little is faithful also in much; he who is unfaithful in little is unfaithful also in much!

Seriously though it’s wrong that they can’t tell him what he’s paying for, I would pay the bill so I don’t get my credit jacked up then fight to get my money back! If he can’t afford 700 bones then shame on him!
11 months ago
yeah I totally agree, if you owe the military anything, they won't let your ass leave/get out, for sums as small as that they make you pay that back before you ETS.. they can take money owed like that out of your tax return.. I think the article is a load of shit.. but stuff happens like that all the time in the military, my commander from my last unit got demoted because he lost 2 million dollars worth of equipment and I don't think he will get a bill for that..
11 months ago
But don't you see, Bush and Cheney and their Saudi oil buddies need fast cash for their fascist pig lifestyles.

Two words: impeach and imprison.
11 months ago
Bulls eye.
11 months ago
LOL holy shit batman. thats pretty fucked up they put there life's on the line and shit and at the end they get charged for it, theres also other people that are homeless straight form the middle east and cant get any help from there own country thats why im not gonna join the military nor fight for this country and its leaders ::cough:: bush COUGH. OK GG
11 months ago
outrageous stuff indeed

speaking of outrageous, Glumbert, you need to relocate the new pop-up ads out of the clip window to anywhere else on the page -- serious compromise to what viewers come here for...
11 months ago
I don't like the pop ups either, but this is a free service to the viewer. The cost of operating the site has to be paid somehow. Either we put up with the ads or we pay a fee for service. I know I wouldn't pay use Glumbert, there is more junk than interesting content.
11 months ago
And just so it’s not all Anti-President Bush on here I’ll go on the record and say I support him and Pray for him daily! You gota love a President who will say God bless this country!

If you’re mad at the President because you’re broke, you’re a fool because you have the power to make you rich not the President so stop whining about the economy!

If you’re mad at the President because of the WAR, run for office and change it or vote for someone who will! (Don’t even get me started if you’ve never voted or served your country in the Armed Forced, Canada or other wise and try to run your mouth!)
11 months ago
Woot!! Yeaahhh!
11 months ago
This guy should get Sen. Robert Byrd (D-West Virgina) to go to bat for him. He'll either confuse them, bore the shit out of them, or shit himself.
11 months ago
torc 55
i believe i met u at a after hours party in new mexico nice guy but smoked out, 1812 dude wtf are you writing that on meth or just being funny, cause it was . i was laughing untill i had the thought that you may be serious then i sobered and decided to ake the queston.
are you fucking serious???? with no malice yours truly randal flagg
11 months ago
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!
11 months ago
Secret code, secret code! I love it when you do that canuck, please FILL ME IN! FILL ME IN! FILL ME IN! FILL ME IN! I'M CUMMING!
11 months ago
RUWA,RUWA NOW I KNOW!!!

thank you for stepping forward and taking responsibility for the SHIT PIE you helped create. thank a higher power that we will vote his murdering ass hole out of office very soon, unless he try's some crazy shit and i wouldent put it past him. becouse any longer in office and he would be gassing a people like the NAZI'S in world war 2 and with you n others supporting him i can see history repeating itself in bad way. oh and while your at those prayers for the monkey president try adding yourself in asking god to forgive him n those who voted him a (secound) time for the murder and maiming of thousands of american
11 months ago
oh and forgive my misspelling i was miffed. thank you.
11 months ago
Oh jesus.

Oh, Randl...(still wiping away tears of mirth)...you are definitely a card.

A real pip.
11 months ago
That's what he gets for joining the military.
11 months ago
Just a joke BTW...
11 months ago
Randal,

Thank you for your very insightful post I have seen the error of my ways. I have donned my “Make Love Not War” tee-shirt with my “Vote for Hillary Pin” and decided to join you since you are so very smart! We can get on the passivity train and ride straight into Hell!

FYI I pray to God not god! There is only on God but may god’s.

Jesus is Lord!

US Troops
Killed in Iraq since 2003
3,645

Wounded in Iraq since 2003
27,000


Murders in the US since 2003 (approximately.)
70,000

You have a better chance of getting murdered in Boston than killed in Bagdad!
11 months ago
wow no shit, a better chance maybe if your wearing a yankees hat at fenway.
try selling those right wing lies to the 15 and 16 year olds you and your pals are peddeling to the junior high kids at the local schools even thoe thier not buying it anymore . sorry ruwa those stats are the dumbest argument to try and bail on your guilty conscience now your argument is as long as some one murder's more people than me then its ok????????.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................WTF IS THAT??????
I PRAY TO THE( 80 FT TALL SUPER KING BABY JESUS) THAT MAYBE ONE DAY KNUCKLE DRAGERS LIKE YOUR SELF WILL STOP KILLING PEOPLE IN HIS NAME . I PLAY POKER WITH HIM ON SUNDAY WHILE YOU AMORAL CHEESE DICKS GO TO CHURCH,AND WE LAUGH ARE BALLS OFF.....

YOUR HOLINESS RANDALFLAGG
11 months ago
Is he serious?

A better chance of getting murdered in Boston, then Baghdad?

How can you look at the total number of people killed just by US troops (probably a number undervalued to start with), and compare it to the number of people killed in the entire USA?

You realize that Iraq is dramatically (DRAMATICALLY) smaller then the United States... right?
11 months ago
oh and ruwa, im not pacifist and i don't take the bus. but if it's hell im headed, then it's god driving
11 months ago
ya he is serious lol.
you know i can forgive some one for being fooled in voting for that ####the first time but a second time? then thats when you know them for what thay really are!!!

Jesus is lord... did you catch that? thats who were dealing with.
probley want's to turn all our schools into jesus camps (shudder ,vomit...... thought fades away) im ok im ok need a littel air is all.......... must sleep..........now
11 months ago
He should send them $1.00 a month to repay it...that's 704 months. That way it will be paid off in 58 years!
11 months ago
devious 1,ruwa and a very few others seems to be the only one who shows any loyalty to his country some other so called american's should follow suit get, tow the line, shape up or ship out. if america fails so does the free world. god bless georg w bush and the current goverment may thay reign a thousand years !!!
and RANDALFLAGG and you others (you know who you are) keep talking shit, thay can track you and thay will then will see you talking out your ass. in prison.
11 months ago

Loyalty to this country used to be separated from loyalty to your God. I worry more about the Christian madrases here in the US, than I do about anything from outside the country.


We do not want to pray to GWB.
We do not want your GOD.
We do not fear your GOD.

"We the people" of the real America will not submit to your Christian Reich as you have so inarticulately put it:

"god bless georg w bush and the current goverment may thay reign a thousand years !!!
and RANDALFLAGG and you others (you know who you are) keep talking shit, thay can track you and thay will then will see you talking out your ass."

Yep! We "know who we are", and are proud of it!

We will fight for our freedom, from all enemies foreign or domestic. We will test that a nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure!




11 months ago
Randal my man,you're coming to the Hammer? Be glad to show you and your friends around my home turf. Let me know you agenda. At the cottage for the long weekend but around after that. bill_tari@hotmail.com. Hey folks, don't spam the crap out of me will ya.
11 months ago
what is it and where do you buy the shit your smoking? lol and i have been to prison so please if your throwing scare tactiics around use one that would actually work although i can't think of one that would. let me see hmmmm i served in the usmc, played hockey 12 years ,lived in the moutains for a number of yrs and im married so pain is somthing i learn to live with. sort of like an old friend. .............. ya so bring somthing else to the tabel next time because like your predecessor in name leave out the jesus and your really bush league.
11 months ago
B zing!
11 months ago
Huh?

Randal?

You played hockey??

No shit??

I know you mentioned you served in the Corps, but HOCKEY??

Billy-B? You hear that??

( mental note: keep a promotion open for Randal in Cancuk1963 Inc.; makers of fine beer, wine and adult novely devices)
11 months ago
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11 months ago
yes sir, goalie 10 years then played defense for 2 explaning the extensive tour of canada . lol those were some good years i look back on them quite fondly. i played at the fourm in montreal and at the garden in toronto. lol
11 months ago
(gapes in stunned silence)

A Marine....turned...hockey player????

GODDAMMIT!!!

Now THAT....is a REAL AMERICAN!!!

lol

BILLY-B!!

Ya hear this???

(staring at screen in disbelief here)
11 months ago
Randal sir, I'd like to offer you an honorary Canadian citizenship(sorry, dual citizenship, don't want you to forsake your homeland) You're alright in my books(and a guaranteed "trator" (or however he misspells it)in jesushbush's)which just makes me very, very happy.
11 months ago
ya go over there up there in there where ever but out of here. hockey is for chimps and any coastguard woman would kick your ass from where ever you live across the border in to mexada ,think of the money you save in travel fare no nuts.
11 months ago
thanks bill we are going to niagara falls canadian side hit hamilton then toronto make a week out of it. will wait till the leafs start and change thoe gonna be nice.
11 months ago
Randal my man,you're coming to the Hammer? Be glad to show you and your friends around my home turf. Let me know you agenda. At the cottage for the long weekend but around after that. bill_tari@hotmail.com. Hey folks, don't spam the crap out of me will ya
11 months ago
oh and willber if you want you can come also .im here in jersey city n,j .
i know a place in the hights that's open till we leave. i work up there in my spare time with the inner city kids seems of late thay have decapitated a few of thier own. gang initiation it appers . so your welcome to bring your bad ass self i can introduce you to some 12 and 14 year old locals, you would love it .
4 months ago
A buddy of mine dropped his NVGs in Baghdad and they were run over. He had to pay $2000, and also was made to take the first leave back to the states. Sooo... now he's been in Baghdad close to a year straight. Lets just say the Army has a reputation of putting "people" low on the priority list. NOT joining the Army was one of the best decisions I ever made.

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