John McCain Got Crazy Last Night

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First:booger
1 year ago
I think Obama should come in FIRST!!
1 year ago
And you're not the first to think that
1 year ago
I can only hope.
1 year ago
Confucius say: Be careful what you wish for...
1 year ago
wish is like "go away" hope is like "don't ever come"
1 year ago
Shit.

Shoulda waited until Glumbert posted this new clip.

Oh well.

NOW I'll re-post THIS gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlrf32JI708

Suck it up, John-Boy.
1 year ago
What the heck is "being indoctrinated with liberalism", and are the conservatives offering a vaccine?
1 year ago
1. You're equating what the expressed political-viewpoints are of ONE man with the conflicting (confused) political view-points are of a POLITICAL candidate who is running for the White House and actually SAID what he SAID?

2. I could poke so many holes in this persons arguments, it's beyond pathetic. Childishly easy, as a matter of fact. BUT....he IS entitled to his political viewpoints, and he IS free to speak his mind. No arguments there.

3. If Democrats/liberals are so big on "brainwashing" their own.....then how did GWB become POTUS for the last 8 years?

4. I've offered up many, many examples of how different people in the McCain/Palin support groups all have one thing in common: they believe the silliest, most insane things. Plus, they actually operate on a very common, base level. The completely hateful things they say and believe ARE almost identical. They have a current of racism and hate (sometimes overt....sometimes not....more often not) that permeates their core beliefs. It's uncanny, actually. Sad, too.

Know who else is taking an interest in this phenomena? Al-Jazeera (!), of all fucking outfits! You know....the mouthpiece for your Saudi pals! Even THEY came across this nonsense. And the funny thing is.....THEY didn't have to do a damn thing. The McCain/Palin lynch mob did it all for them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

Nice to see the McCain/Palin lynch mob giving propaganda ammo, to the very folks who have an axe to grind against the West.

When's this shit gonna stop, Stream, huh? How many more examples do you need to actually SEE with your OWN eyes, hear with your own EARS, before you wake up and SEE that there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with a LOT of the people who are propagating this asinine shit, and who seem to believe and say the most ridiculous things about a man who's running for office?

How many more times before you see that a genuine pattern is involved here?

Or is it that you condone/believe this sort of shit?

You know...I think you do.

I truly believe that about you.
1 year ago
Hey, Stream!

Try this one on for size:

http://www.sacbee.com/812/story/1314854.html

You want more?

I can go on and on, if you like.

Like I said...patterns, baby.

PATTERNS.
1 year ago
My dearest bigot, Cminus: By trying to equate a couple of loons with an entire group of people...yada yada yada. I can find tons of whines and complaints from you about posters here generalizing all of Canadians based on one illiterate bigot as you. Your hypocricy knows no bounds. I still love you, though. (Wipe the donut goo off your chin.)

Now, if I mention that Chavez and Achmedinijad support BHO, along with the Nation of Islam and Farrakhan, does that make you withdraw your support because these psychopaths are now on your side? When's it going to stop? Or, do you condone them? Like the proud Obama supporters who wear shirts that say "Sarah Palin is a (Canuck)". Surely you would not put yourself in with these extremists.

Every crowd has its wackos. Those on both sides will (a) find them and (b), put them out there to be the "face" of the opposition. Like Keith Olberman.

I have accused you of being, let's just say, below average on many occasion. It has been demonstrated over and over. Like now. If you think the people in the video are a fair representation of middle America OR a fair representation of the conservative movement, it will only prove my point.
You are part of the herd.

On your Sacremento Bee article...you, I suppose, showed that to demonstrate a larger trend in GOP politics. Nice try. The article states that the "local party went too far." LOCAL. Not unusual for both parties, Mr. Soros.

Keep polishing that big brain of yours.
1 year ago
Okiee-dokiee.

Fair point.

I look forward to your many, many examples of folks in the "liberal movement" sinking to these depths, and showing the same pattern as with those in the McCain/Palin/Republican camp.

You can start anytime, Bucko.
1 year ago
"Local"?

Ummmm......wrong again.

P-A-T-T-E-R-N-S.

S-I-M-I-L-A-R-I-T-I-E-S.

Could someone PUH-LEEZE talk to him???

He jes' don't get it.
1 year ago
"Local"...when reading an article that you suppose supports your feeble opinion, please read the whole thing.

As to horrific things that this Bucko needs to cite as products of the other side:
MoveOn.org to start...read them. The balance of hatred is there and they are supposedly mainstream democrat/liberal, the folks who claim to be the open-minded.
The legitimacy given to people like this by the MSM.
Almost all of Hollywood and the abject hatred spewed from there.
You.

There are more, but this is plenty.

Oh yeah, crayons are a lot of fun, C. Once you master gluing macaroni to plate, the three of you can color. Wash your hands after sharing crayons with IQ.
1 year ago
Alrighty then.

Thanks for the "examples".

I, on the other hand, will continue to provide you with, shall we say...slightly more specific examples as I'v been doing, to show you the p-a-t-t-e-r-n from a VARIETY of sources, instead of sticking to Bill O'Leilly's Talking Points Memos.

But the invitation still stands.

Have at it, when you think you're ready.
1 year ago
Wow.
A non-answer answer.
Specifics. What specifics do you need that have not been posted there?!
Wait, you want me to post single articles like you do...supposing as you do that one article proves a point.

Well, I would rather you explore on your own. If you don't want to explore, as I assume you do not, then ok.

Making mobiles can be fun, too. Did you know that Pluto is not a planet.
Don't include that one in your mobile.
1 year ago
That "local" article, is indicative of a similar broad patt------

Oh fuck it.

You'll never get the point.
1 year ago
Generalizing from one local event to a broader national one makes you a bigo...aw, screw it. No matter how many times I show it, you still deny it.
1 year ago
1 year ago
While your thinking continues to shrink and shrink.
First story...we don't know who did it. Might have been an Obama supporter to paint the opposition as racist. Could have been kids who think they are being rebels. You don't know. Were this in te 50's and 60's it would have been the Dem's accused of it and they would have proudly said that they probably did. But, you think it is evidence for your case. Moron. Do you have any idea how many of these things you can cite and NO PATTERN emerges about conservatives. Bigot.

Second article...DID YOU READ THE WHOLE THING?!
"Sacramento Sheriff Sgt. Tim Curran said that there are no suspects and the biased crimes unit is reviewing the case. He also said that there have been no other vandalisms of this racial intensity in Sacramento recently."
C-Minus might be too generous.

Third article/blog...Are you serious? An old joke, insert any person,race,sex,etc and that joke still ain't funny. Yet, you cite it as support for yor now-destroyed rationale. I don't recall your outrage over the movie about the assassination of GWB? Would that qualify as hatred from your side? Or, how about the movie "W" from that ever-vigilant arteur Oliver Stoned? Hatred? Why, no...that's politalc speech.

Fourth article...What in the world are they apologizing for? Political satire?! Honestly, the people with the thinnest skins... I didn't see the racism either until the article pointed it out. (I have seen more white folks on food stamps, by far, than black folks.) Sheesh.

Then, there's Legos. You will loooove Legos!
1 year ago
Haven't seen "W"....but you can bet your ass I'm going to.

Then I'll get back to ya.

Sux when someone dares to criticize (IF, in fact, it IS criticism) King George.....don't it?
1 year ago
Damn Canuck, Streamlined has been drilling you a new asshole. You gonna take that from him?
1 year ago
I agree: Canuck, Streamlined did dril you a new asshole on that topic. Hands down...
1 year ago
Oh dear.

what ever shall I do now???

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
1 year ago
Waaa, waaaa! Op-ed pieces...

Waaa, waaaa! Mainstream media...

Waaa, waaaa! Hollywood...

They all hate my little McInsane Mini-me Bush...oh woe is me....

You might want to add that most people in cyber-space think McInsane and Pucker-Face Palin are also pretty unspeakable options for the US to appoint as its leadership

This is because they are:

Outmoded
Outdated
Out thought
Out campaigned (oh I do so hope)

Out of office

Whilst you may decry these channels of communication, you only do so Stweemy because they show your witless rantings in support of the unspeakable, for the crap they are.

Carry on muppet.
1 year ago
and be nourished
1 year ago
So what unspeakable would that be exactly Mako? Wanting a smaller government? Wanting our citizens to be self-reliant, rather than government dependent? Wanting to actually finish the wars America is already in? Truly unspeakable!

What is unspeakable, is any media coverage doubting Obama is the next messiah.
1 year ago
Unspeakable because they have exactly the same warmongering, self serving outlook as Bush and hois cronies had (Stweemy just luuurves them so I can see why he likes McInsane!)

The US DOES need a change and McInsane ain't it, he's just more of the same.

You can't see that?
1 year ago
No.

He can't.

He's too hung-up on the waterboarding sports.
1 year ago
http://kskirby.net/mccain.html

100 good reasons not to vote McInsane

Stweem'O'Bullshit you really need to think things through more thoroughly
1 year ago
Mako, John McCain was not my first choice for Republican candidate. He's a good and honorable man, but too much of a RINO for me. He's the less bad of two candidates, compared to Obama. Obama wants to push America further down the road toward big government, and government dependence, which I believe are bad for America.
1 year ago
McCain: How do you stand on Iraq, Mr. Obama?
Obama: With my feet, Mr. McCain.
1 year ago
he is muslim, he's behind the current financial fall( hidden terrorist attack) and now "wants to fix America's problem. 1st thing a true American is to believe in America, salute the flag, not be friends with terrorist. Did you not see the the interview he stated " his muslin faith " Get real.
1 year ago
What's the pay rate for political blogging?
1 year ago
fucking knot head, what do you have up your ass besides your head?
1 year ago
you may need help!
1 year ago
Muslin?? Obama doesn't seem that stiff to me......
1 year ago
freedom
1 year ago
McCain is a commie plant, he has a micro chip in his left cheek, look close you can see it.
1 year ago
at the end they should have put why so serious then heath ledger could come back from the dead and put a smile on both their faces
1 year ago
I took a poo dis mownin
guess who it looked like
1 year ago
sheesh.....prolly just another self-portrait...except more flattering in the origial shit.
1 year ago
*original*, that is...I guess that talking to fools leads to foolish mistakes.
1 year ago
John wasn't angry last night. The American people were angry. They were angry about being angry, and then angry some more. John kinda stumbled at the start there.

I'd have to say the Canadians are more angry, judging by the posts here.
1 year ago
Tut-tut-tut......

(wagging finger here)

Remember....stay away from generilizations.

It's sooooo....uncouth.
1 year ago
Political affiliations excepted, of course.

LOL!
1 year ago
The further misadventures of Canuck, the Bumbling Bigot.

(Mustn't generalize...I love it.)
1 year ago
Yes!

Finally!

You're learning.
1 year ago
But I can't help generalizing Canuck... Being only an inbred, ignorant, gun-toting, religious wacko Republican, I need to keep things real simple.
1 year ago
caunck why must you stick your head in your ass?
does it remind you of your sacred "O" man
1 year ago
Streamlined racist helldivers

Good name for the new Republican party
1 year ago
Mako - "Streamlined racist helldivers "

Very creative, and that one may stick. LOL,
1 year ago
Well the Helldiver part might scare away the religious nutjob vote. Racist does not apply to the Republican party, and I'm not even too fond of that name. (I'll assume its sarcastic until I learn otherwise).
1 year ago
"Racist does not apply to the Republican party"

OMFG!!!

LMFAOOO!!!!

HEY YOU GUYS!!

DID YA HEAR THAT???

LOL!

Oh man! AND ALL THIS TIME I THOUGHT YOU WERE SERIOUS ABOUT THE SHIT YOU WERE SAYING, INSTEAD OF REALIZING IT WAS ALL AN ACT!!!

GOOD ONE!!!

lololol!!!
1 year ago
Please Canuck, share your glorious wisdom with us, how the Republican party is racist? Obviously you have attended many Republican meetings, and you know republicans much better than they know themselves! You are so full of shit, you must wake up with brown stains on your pillow, from the shit leaking out your ears.

Obama attended a church, led by a racist minister. You're side is just as bad. You are a bigot against anyone religious or republican, which is as bad as being a bigot against skin-color. Hitler and Stalin killed millions of people with the wrong religious or political views, and they were often the same color. You would have fit right into Stalin's NKVD.
1 year ago
Ah shit, this is not really a discussion. Neither candidates do look like racists to me. Though some of the voters definitely are.

The story about Obama and his "association" with Ayers and that minister is ridiculous. McCains association with Libby is maybe more significant, but also not an issue except for those who enjoy mud slinging.

Going for the facts: Palin is incompetent and demonstrates this whenever possible. Biden is the typical slick politician (aka asshole). Nice selection of vice presidents...

McCain is simply too old for the office, Obama definitely wins there.
1 year ago
Bug, I do actually agree that McCain is too old, but I prefer that over too inexperienced. Palin is more qualified to be president than is Obama, and I actually like the fact that she's not just another slick politician.

I agree many voters are racist, on both sides. People are voting for and against Obama, based purely on his skin color. That's a shame, and hopefully all the racists on both sides will cancel out each others votes. Hard to say which side has more racists.
1 year ago
In this instance I can only see that 'not being a slick politician' equates to Palin being a naive popular vote choice without thought for the consequences her actual presidency might actually entail

McInsane is falling into the background here

Obama is a better choice on the basis of both his initial approach to the issues as well as what Bidne offers as a back up. Palin still staggers on all counts it seems to me

By the way, her appearance on SNL was a peach

Race is only an issue for those who chose to make it so

Helldiver I take back any malice. We may disagree but at least you're civil
1 year ago
Mako, lets pretend Palin isn't as qualified to be president as Obama, not that Obama has any executive experience at all. Palin isn't running against Obama, she's running against Joe the Senator. Obama in all his inexperience, is running against McCain. I just don't understand the fascination with demonizing Palin, and not even addressing McCain's qualifications.

I agree Palin's appearance on SNL was LAME. She barely spoke. Although in her defense, she was entering a hostile environment, only to be repeatedly put down and bashed. Not quite the self-depreciating humor that McCain did on SNL.

"Race is only an issue for those who chose to make it so " Well race may not be an issue for you and me, but I know there will be Americans that won't vote for Obama because of his race, and there will be possibly more Americans that will vote for Obama because of his race. So you're statement isn't exactly inaccurate, but it is misleading. You can say race isn't an issue for you, but lots of people will chose to make it so. I only hope the racists on both sides are too small to significantly impact the election.

I will always be civil, and respect your different opinion, unless you're an asshole like Canuck.
1 year ago
Nah, just the canadians that waste their time getting so wrapped up in politics that they feel the need to get on a video site and spew their political views.
1 year ago
........gosh..........who might that be...........? ? ? ? ? ?
1 year ago
Notice how SOME types around here insist on generalizations? And how some other other folks around here have NEVER done that? (clearing throat here).

Hate seems to drive all of these people to the same place, apparently.
1 year ago
Canuck, you're probably the worst at generalizing, being a clear bigot to anyone expressing a conservative thought. Aren't you liberals supposed to be more tolerant of everyone? But since I shouldn't generalize, I guess you must be the intolerant liberal.
1 year ago
Wrong.

Again.

There a some pretty decent "conservatives" hereabouts with whom I've had even-handed discourse with, and I respect their opinions. It's just the nutty, fringe clueless elements within that philosophy that I've branded like cattle....so that they stand out like sore thumbs, and then I repeatedly show how stupid those particular ones are.

Kinda like.......welllllll.......yourself, actually.
1 year ago
Didn't I already explain this to you (with examples, no less)? Or don't you fucking read so good?

Fucks sakes.
1 year ago
Obama is pro-coochies.
1 year ago
Please vote Obama, that is all
1 year ago
Amen (or is that a copyrighted term?)
1 year ago
Not gonna do it.
1 year ago
It would seem that "Joe the plumber" isn't a plumber, earns less than 150K per year, is a tax evader, has family political connections to the Republican party, and the McCain campaign is putting as much distance as they can from "good ole Joe".

Hey Joe, can I take a peek at you're bank deposits for the week. Did the check from the RNC clear?
1 year ago
...and more: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/16/joe-the-plumber/

We must be careful what information we consume. I don't really feel bad for the guy, because I bet he will profit from his new found fame as a spokesperson for the McCain campaign.
1 year ago
In the hilltown to be a plumber you must have a pick-up truck, two pipe wrenches, a min of 50 lbs over weight and a crack in your ass, I know a plumber names Joe, and Joe you are no plumber.
1 year ago
Pods:

Yup.

Gym:

LMFAO!
1 year ago
You all may have missed the point of Joe the plumber...either on purpose or by accident...in order to make him the distraction.

BHO's comments should disqualify him from the Presidency. "...we just want to spread it (Joe's wealth) around a little." This from a supposed Constitutional attorney. I think it's high time to call BHO "Uncle Joe".
McCain missed the biggest opportunity in the debate by not hammering Uncle Joe on this openly socialist comment.
1 year ago
Gee.

The "Arab" label didn't stick; the"terrorist" label" lost steam; The "muslim" label went by the wayside........

OH I KNOW!

He's a...a...a......SOCIALIST!!

YEAH!!!

THAT's the ticket!

LOLOLOL!!
1 year ago
Hey Stream!

I can see Buffalo, N.Y. from here!!

Whattaya know!! I'm an expert on "foreign policy"!!!!!

HAR-HAR-HAR-HAR!!!!!!
1 year ago
Not being down here in the US limits your knowledge. Only selecting sources of info that confirm your opinion limits it as well.
In this case, your ignorance only pales in comparison to your sad intellect.

BHO...has been labelled a socialist a long time ago. Read other sources. I know it is difficult to find any real criticism of Obama, but it is out there.

Still didn't address my core criticism of BHO and his socialist proposal.
cluck cluck
1 year ago
Welll.....ummmm....YOU live in the U.S.

So how come YOUR knowledge is limited?
1 year ago
Besides, why bother addressing ANYTHING you say about Obama? It's nothing but regurgitated, fear-mongering nonsense from the depths of the Republican base (which appeals to you).

I've already shown you that.
1 year ago
And according to the standards set by Gov. Palin HERSELF, out of her own lipstick-smeared yap......you sure have one fuck of an attitude speaking to ME in that tone, considering my foreign policy credentials.

You sure have nerve.
1 year ago
Still haven't answered the question.
Coward.
1 year ago
Please.

Stop.

Ah'm a'skeert.
1 year ago
"The answer to this crisis is a 3-letter word: J-O-B-S...JOBS".

See, I can play the silly comment game, too. Joe Biden dwarfs Dan Quayle in the knuckleheaded comments department. (But, not you, Cminus.)
1 year ago
Hey Stream-O!

Lookiee here!:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h5P2f-dgLBCzuRdaaWR2BTYBb81AD93SBAJO0

You're Republican pals just got handed some more PAIN. LOL!

I guess there ain't gonna be a repeat of Florida 2000.....huh?

HA!
1 year ago
You're equating a minor spelling gaffe....with an actual insipid, long-winded RIDICULOUS answer given by Palin? THOSE......is comparable in your view?

Riiiiiiiiiight.
1 year ago
How about Biden's description of FDR going on TV? Is that proof he is not qualified for VP?
Palin is more qualified for the VP than BHO is for the presidency.
1 year ago
Oh man.

You really ARE gone. G-O-N-E.

Palin is more...

Wow.

Can't even bring muhself to say it.
1 year ago
Mako?

I'm gonna leave THAT one....ALLLLLLL to you.

LOL!
1 year ago
S'alright C, give a chimp enough rope and he eventually hangs himself...

By suggesting that a naive hockey-mum (who's grasp on foreign policy is based on her kids school atlas, and looking out of the window at Russia) would be in any way better qualified for ANY political role than a senator who has served for over 35 years, ickle bitty stweem'o'bullshit is clearly swaying in the winds of insanity

Stweemy, poor little stweemy...just let go...it'll all be ok when you relax and understand there are people who know and understand more about the world than Palin (and you)

They will do a better job than an angry geriatric delinquent and a gun-toting creationist.

BELIEVE!

;-P
1 year ago
Labelling someone a socialist carries no weight whatsoever when they will shortly become the leader of the largest capitalist market on the planet

Only a desperately dumb person would do that.

Oh, I see they have.

No surprises there. Keep digging Stweem'O
1 year ago
Ooops - error on my part, I thought Stweemy was making comparisons between the credentials of Pucker Face and Biden. My bad.

However to suggest that Palin is a better candidate for VP than Obama is for POTUS is not really worth commenting on - comparing apples with pears there Stweem'O'BS

That Obama will probably BECOME president whilst Palin will slink back to baking cookies and learning foreign policy through her binoculars suggests you are clutching at straws in even bringing this up for discussion

Weak as usual.
1 year ago
Hey Stream - I'm just curious who you think Jesus would vote for?
1 year ago
Pods...not sure. It's an absurd question. Speculation of that sort is simply silly. (Not sure, but are you among those who don't think Jesus was/is real?)

IQ100: My assertion that palin is more qualified via experience for the Presidency through the VP than BHO is very simple to prove...and, Cminus...I don't need opinion polls or op-eds or news articles to verify it.
Here goes:
She ran her own business, a state and the State's National Guard (combined) longer than Obama has been a Senator, which mind you, has no executive power.
Whether you agree with her positions or not, this experience argument is undeniable. She has similar experience to Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan whereas he has NONE...not a little...not some...NONE as an executive.

The MSM, in 24 hours, exposed Joe the plumbers life and have not done the same for BHO. Why isn't his grotesque lack of experience an issue? Further, comparing experience of all four candidates is important, IQ10. The VP might wind up being the Pres. I am sure you knew that.
BTW IQ Socialism is a dirty word and carries a lot of weight down here. Your argument, as usual, is absurd...unless, you agree with BHO in his socialism.
1 year ago
No I don't think the question is "absurd". It is a philosophical question about one of the moral compasses of Christianity. I think there probably was a Jesus, but the actual reality that surrounds anyone of prominence over 2K years ago is rife with willing distortion.
1 year ago
If he was a socialist then you might have a point

As he's not, you don't.

As usual.
1 year ago
'Evolution' and 'choice' are also dirty words according to you Stweem'O'Bullshit

Keep cooing
1 year ago
Pods...of course it is absurd.
Could God create a rock so big even He couldn't lift it?
Equally absurd.
Please do not elevate your question to one of philosophy.
1 year ago
"They will do a better job than an angry geriatric delinquent and a gun-toting creationist. "
Where do you get any facts to back up calling Palin a creationist? And does being a creationist somehow screw up your decision making? Does that make you an official wack-job? I'm more into evolution myself, but I'm not going to insult someone because they're a creationist. I wasn't here 6001 years ago to prove Darwin's theory. But Palin has expressed no creationist comments, that didn't later turn out to be made up rumor.

As for McCain being an angry geriatric delinquent, well that negative name calling about an American hero just has no place. I agree the man is showing his age. Should we openly mock all our elders now? Should I call Obama a smooth-talking socialist with dumbo-ears? I wouldn't do that!

"However to suggest that Palin is a better candidate for VP than Obama is for POTUS is not really worth commenting on - comparing apples with pears"
While I agree with Mako on this, it is the left that has been comparing Obama to Palin, or Obama to Bush, rarely Obama to McCain. Because they know comparing Obama to McCain, only highlights Obama's inexperience. Streamlined is only finishing the comparision the left started.

"I'm just curious who you think Jesus would vote for?"
Podman, was that a rip on Streamlined's religious beliefs? I'm not sure what your intent was with this question, but it doesn't appear to be in good taste.
1 year ago
I think if one were to believe that Jesus existed, and followed the teachings of Jesus, then one could not vote for a candidate that was for continued warfare, or a wife-cheater, or supported "enhanced interrogation", or wants to support the "Money-Changers". Or anyone in the morass of moral bankruptcy that is politics.

It seems to me that the only moral decision would be to not vote. at all.
1 year ago
Podman, you're not really saying if you believe Jesus existed or not, I'm guessing you're not real religious, so you probably shouldn't be trying to use religious arguments against the religious minded.

I don't view McCain alone as for continued warfare, since Obama wants to scale up US military might in Afghanistan. McCain only wants to finish both wars we're already in, and actually provide a credible "stick" to our soft-speaking diplomacy. Clinton was a wife-cheater, was he unsupportable?

McCain was the guy who authored the bill to force the CIA not to torture, which he then got passed into law, against Bush's wishes, all while Obama did nothing. And McCain was the first to call for closing Gitmo.

And as far as supporting the "money-changers", Obama was one of the biggest supporters of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and they huge supporters of Obama right back.

To not vote will be stupid. We need to give the electoral college and supreme court some guidance. But nice disingenuous attempt to persuade religious people not to vote. I thought you believed we were all Americans, and should be uniting? When are you gonna set an example of this behavior you propose?
1 year ago
HD - I'm fairly sure Jesus existed. I'm poking a stick at McCain and Obama, and whoever, not a bias just some examples, of various wacky things the politicians are for or against. You're correct about McCain, but he both supported, and fought against the same issue, but so have they all it seems. Are they confused or inept.... Yada, yada, yada...

Mr. Stream is my only source of the religious view toward politics, and I'm not poking fun, I really want to know how the moral ambiguity is overcome, or even if there is anything to overcome.

It just seems to me that other groups like the Amish really bind the word of God into practice, and its not just rhetoric with them. However some Christian sects are quite political, and that seems strange to me.
1 year ago
...and IMO I don't think Jesus would vote. I brought it up because I thought it would be a interesting subject.

However, I really need Shoeless back on this site, because he was the only evangelical I could understand.
1 year ago
Podman, very well then. I thought you were mocking religion there, but maybe I misinterpreted. Myself, I find it a bit repulsive to let religion guide my political views, but I'm not religious. If I truly believed my religion above all else, I guess it would have to influence political views wouldn't it? I don't like republicans pandering to the evangelical vote, but Obama is trying that now himself. They are voters, and its a close race after all.

I don't believe in the bible in a literal sense, with 7 day creation, and the world being ~6000 years old. I think the bible was written at a time when people were very uneducated and illiterate, and real stories got simplified or altered. I'm also aware of many stories in the bible, that existed in numerous religions before Christianity, so the bible copied good stories liberally. The message might be good, but I don't take the bible literally.

I also believe mankind really wants to believe in a power and cause higher than himself, and we're a very creative species. Peoples who evolved in isolation all developed their own different religions. Even among mainstream religions, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Mormonism... Most people believe somewhere along this progression, there's some false religions being created. Who's to say at what point? Who's to say they aren't all really creative bunk? How can Christians call Islam a false faith? How can Muslims say Christians will burn in hell for ignoring the last prophet Mohammad? And killing in the name of God is repugnant. I think if there is a God, he doesn't want us killing his creations in his name. If God did want this, then I wouldn't worship him anyway.
1 year ago
Well said Helldiver

I am not a believer but you state your belief well, without prejudice, without condescension or pretence

Stweeemy? Ecoute....
1 year ago
Canuck -

You are a literary pygmy.
1 year ago
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1 year ago
Q-tint, finally remembered that other password?
1 year ago
If you think that McCain's poor choices of emotions was bad (even though he could've kept them in easily) You should see his face after he shook Obama's hand and when Obama turned away...
http://timesonline.typepad.com/uselections/2008/10/what-was-mccain.html?cid=135060927#comments
1 year ago
LMFAO!

Is this for real???

Or is this a doctored photo???

(actually, it wouldn't surprise if it WAS real, come to think of it)
1 year ago
Its not doctored at all, that actually happened
1 year ago
This just in "McCain was given extra rice for hummers" in prison camp, sure it's a lie but if I tell it enough times doesn't it become fact?
1 year ago
Gym, When did you sink to that low of mocking tortured American POWs? Highly uncool.
1 year ago
Why you on Gym about this?

From what YOU'VE already said (speacifically, and admitting you'd say it again), you're okay with torture.

So make up my mind, Mr. He-Man.

Are ya?.........or ain't ya?

Shit or get off the pot, as they say.
1 year ago
McInsane was better off as a POW. Probably saved a load of US lives.

Shame he didn't bail before the USS Forrestal

Hey at least he seems to stand no chance of getting into power, washed up angry old man that he his

Streamy I can see why you support him
1 year ago
Speaking of which:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/14/uselections2008-johnmccain

Dunno how much validity there is in this.....but ain't it funny how NO ONE wants to hear from the guy who supposedly held McSame captive.....and we're all just supposed to listen to McSame and NO ONE else?

Gotta love that one-sided coin some folks carry around.
1 year ago
Cminus...let me get this straight. The chief prison guard...of the camp that McCain was kept...says he was not tortured. BUT, the much-decorated Colonel George Day, said the admiral's son had forced his interrogators to "drug him and torture him to get any cooperation", according to a letter in the US National Archives cited earlier this year by the Washington Post. Day said McCain suffered "torturous abuse".

He is full of crap, right Cminus?

You are a miracle.

Wait, you don't believe in those.
You are an accident, albeit a funny one...and, an accident that is the product of someone else's choice. But, an accident nonetheless.
1 year ago
Surprise, I gotta agree with Streamlined on this one... Camp prison guard denies mistreatment of McCain, there's a stretch of the imagination. Kinda like the German concentration camp prison guards that denied any wrongdoing? How about the simple fact that McCain suffered horrendous injuries (including two broken arms) for days, before getting any medical treatment whatsoever? If not torture in itself, it certainly doesn't speak well for POW treatment in this prison. Mako, this is what makes McCain looks geriatric in your eyes. You yourself readily admit you can't say if the story is true, yet you happily post the link as anti-McCain propaganda?
1 year ago
You won't see me making any unsubstantiated wild rumors about Obama. I respect the fact that he is a US senator, just one I don't agree with.

Yet in this thread alone, I've read implications that McCain wasn't really tortured, was responsible for the Forrestal fire, is an angry geriatric old man, and he's tied in with the obviously racist Republican party. (I bet that's why Powell became a Republican, must be the KKK parties that attracted him.) Anyway, the attempts by you Obama supporters to completely discredit McCain, after his decades of impressive military service and government service, are really at an all time low. Maybe that's the level this election has polarized us all. You were right Podman, we as Americans may be terminally divided.
1 year ago
Impressive military service?

How is that in anyway true?
1 year ago
What makes him look geriatric in my eyes is the fact he is 72 years of age and REALLY looking it.

What makes him look geriatric is he fact that he twitches and spasms like he's gonna croak at any time (leading to the scarier option of a Palin presidency)

What makes him look geriatric is the fact that, as a navy pilot he wasn't expecially good at his job and seems to wear that disappointment as anger.

Anger visibly manifests itself in a man's appearance and non verbal communication after so long. It's done so in McInsane

I don't want an angry man in charge of the nuclear football thanks. And I sure as fuck don't want his rapture-loving little hockey-bulldog in charge of it either.
1 year ago
So some 40 years or so after the fact.....why would this self-procliamed camp guard....lie about whether or not he tortured McCain?

Never said I took it at face value.

Just trying to get all the facts, Ma'am.

Just the facts.
1 year ago
On the other hand, maybe this guard uses the Bush definition of torture...
1 year ago
Well Mako, I can respect your opinion. And its not even that I don't agree with you, I'm just more concerned about an inexperienced politician with a known radical past, leading US foreign policy.

I agree McCain is an old fart, but he has good genetics. Part of why we looks so angry and geriatric is those years in a Hanoi prison. I won't defend his military skill as a pilot, he may not have been very good, I wasn't there. But he does have a spine. Anyone that has ever strapped themselves into an aluminum tube, filled with bombs, JP5, and flames, to be shot off a carrier deck is either crazy, or has some balls. I think our enemies would respect and fear this.

I don't see where you can support your claim about Palin wanting the rapture to come. She is no more religious than Obama, its the lefts viewpoint of her that is more critical. I like the fact she's independent, and would work for greater self-reliance from and reform for our government. When every American is dependent on its government, our society will be doomed.
1 year ago
I counted 2865 angry blinks.
1 year ago
Crap...I got 2866...time to count again
1 year ago
You can count that high Stweemy?

LOL
1 year ago
He can count all the way to 6000.
1 year ago
LOL!
1 year ago
Stream-O:

It is done:

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/home/contentposting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V3&showbyline=True&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20081017%2fobama_poll_081017

The Messiah IS here.

Start shitting your ditties.

The Rapture is at-hand.

Save me a seat on dat purdy white horse of yours.
1 year ago
But the world can't vote, because they aren't registered voters. Or is ACORN busy working to correct that?
1 year ago
The world is smart enough to see the good.

YOU.....are not.
1 year ago
Shame really

IF the world COULD vote there'd be no real argument. Obama hands down and McInsane placed in the old-dribblers home he belongs in
1 year ago
Oh no.

The news just keeps getting better for John-Boy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpGdL1K46Hc

Now why is it, that it takes someone like David Letterman to do a far BETTER job, than anyone in the mainstream news business?

Shit, if THEY could do what Letterman does in this clip, McCain would have toast long ago (and Georgie-Boy, too, for that matter).
1 year ago
Cminus...no wonder you are so smart. You get your information from a college drop-out.
Keep worshipping.
1 year ago
College drop-out, does that remind us of someone, coach?
1 year ago
Canuck?
Mako?
You?
I have my degree.
1 year ago
Is that why the world wants Obama, because they can see the good? Is that why Hugo Chavez wants Obama? Why the Palestinians want Obama? Why Iran wants Obama? Why North Korea wants Obama? Why Putin wants Obama? Why Al Qaeda and the Taliban want Obama? Must be their own innate goodness drawing them towards Obama? Either that, or Obama's complete lack of military and foreign policy experience. The fact that a socialist Canada and socialist Europe want the more socialist US candidate to become president, is no surpise.

I don't give a shit if the whole world wants Barney Frank for president. The world will get the US president, that the US citizens elect, plain and simple.

Anyway, the "world" just wants Bush gone. McCain would be acceptable.
1 year ago
What was that Stweem'O?

A doctorate in Bovine Faecal Matter?

Oh yeah, it was Biology wasn't it?... The science you turned your back on after it became blatantly clear that all was created in 6 days...Nice one
1 year ago
Yes Helldiver it IS because the world can see the good

They can see the bad in McInsane too.

In a typically hysterical republican attempt at smokescreening you forget to mention the billions of normal people who have no political or war affiliation to the US.

You are aware that if the free world could chose, it would elect Obama as its leader tomorrow.

That's the FREE world, and NOT just the list if tinpot despots, closed states and up and coming super powers you state above.

They will be challenge for whoever is POTUS, and I doubt McInsane's rationality in the face of any kind of political poker challenge by some "Goddamned Commie" as he would no doubt call Putin...

Electing McInsane and Palestine simply shows the rest of the world a great big Bush-Cheney finger. The global anti-administration feeling towards the Bush-Cheney cabal will then shift towards anti-american sentiment... Reason is simple, if McInsane gets elected then it means you as a voting population had the chance to make a difference and elected someone who'll make none.

THIS is why the world wants Obama.
1 year ago
Streamy, suddenly got a degree? Wow, before you told us that you dropped out of biology since it made all no sense and did not fit with the bible.

HD, you are a perfect idiot. Everybody outside the USA wants Obama simply because the world can neither like the idea of the USA collapsing economically and/or starting yet another unwarranted war.

As for McCain's decorations: It is outrageously stupid to vote fro somebody because of what he did decades ago instead of for what he will be able to do in the future.
1 year ago
World approval ratings (issued today by Gallup; a fairly decent organization not prone to mistakes and poor research) put Obama AHEAD of McInsane by 4 to 1

That's what world is thinking on the subject


No Helldiver, McInsane would not be acceptable
1 year ago
"They can see the bad in McInsane too. "
Such as passing anti-torture legislation and wanting to close Gitmo? How about disagreeing with Obama about the better way to improve health care, education, the economy, are these things that make McCain bad?

"In a typically hysterical republican attempt at smokescreening you forget to mention the billions of normal people who have no political or war affiliation to the US. "
I made no smokescreen attempt. The billions of normal people with no political or war affiliation to the US, were not attacked on 9/11, and do not have to worry about defending America from another terrorist attack. They also had the luxury of letting the US enforce UN resolutions on Iraq. And apparantly those billions aren't worried about Iran and NK aquiring nukes either, because only the US and Israel will get nuked? Not all foreigners don't care about defending America, which is why they don't get to vote for our president. I'm not trying to bash foreigners. But they aren't covered by US constitutional rights, they don't have America's best interests at heart, and they don't get to vote.

"You are aware that if the free world could chose, it would elect Obama as its leader tomorrow." Again, I really don't care. Should that influence my voting decision? Because I'm not seeing that.

"They will be challenge for whoever is POTUS, and I doubt McInsane's rationality in the face of any kind of political poker challenge by some "Goddamned Commie" as he would no doubt call Putin... "
There I disagree with your opinion. I think the opposite is true. NK, Russia, Iran, will all be challenging Obama, because they know they can get away with more, than they would under McCain. Speak softly and carry a big stick. The world knows Obama carries no stick.

What makes you say McCain is insane? Is this your opinion, or do you have any fact to back it up?

"Electing McInsane and Palestine simply shows the rest of the world a great big Bush-Cheney finger. "
Again you think McCain and Bush are the same. They are not!

"It is outrageously stupid to vote fro somebody because of what he did decades ago instead of for what he will be able to do in the future."
And it is outrageously stupid to vote for somebody who did nothing in the past decade, because this is an indicator he will do nothing in the future. We have ugly choices, just like the last two presidential elections.

"No Helldiver, McInsane would not be acceptable"
The world will be thrilled to be rid of Bush. They will get used to McCain...

Ask yourself, is the world happy with China's replacement leadership? Same devout communist. How about Putin's replacement? Hand picked copy. The world does not get to pick superpowers leaders, it is ridiculous to even be discussing this. Why don't you tell Russia and China the world wants new leadership for them?
1 year ago
Wait, I just read where BHO is whining that he would be 2-3 points higher in the polls were it not for Fox News.
Interesting...does that mean the polls are accurately representing the relative voting relationship that is to emerge? 4 years ago they weren't.
Does that mean, ipso facto, that his polls are generally related to how he is portrayed in the media? If so, that is a tacit admission that the other MSM are portraying him positively.

I am sure he could get a good cheese with that whine among the snifter sniffers with whom he cavorts.
1 year ago
Wwaaaaa! Mainstream media being nasty to my little McInsane Wwaaaaa!

Man the fuck up and understand it's not because of an agenda, it's simply because McInsane offers NOTHING your country needs right now.
1 year ago
why is he angry? because he's old, got cancerous scabs on his face and is heading towards his demise on planet earth. aside from that he's a Mick Mc Cain.. and if you're a mick you come from Ireland and if you break Ireland down it is the Land of Ire. Ireland.. all angry people.. those Irish.. lol what a joke..

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