let me ask you this. If some ass hole rapes you could you learn to love this child? could you find answer when your other children call this child a rape child one day when they have an argument.What if you are but a child your self. What will you do when your partner walks out on you? what happens if the child is born with aids? I know the child did not ask for this. But mentally how many could handle this over a long period. And what right have you to tell someone what they can do with there own life? there own body? Who the fuck are you to tell me what I can and can not do? why the fuck should people suffer because of another ass hole that should mind there own business. But which path they take there life will never be the same. EACH TO THERE OWN.
Hey nefariousprior. #1 I did not say I would tell so read it again. and you would be surprised how children can find things out. #2 No I would kill my self. But tell me why should a baby suffer because some c#@t with aids raped the mother. How long will the baby live in pain for before he or she dies?. Now I have a hypothetical question for you. Lets say you have a terminal illness or disease that has no cure and every day you are in pain could you handle the strain mentally and/or physically how many drugs would you take? some people can not handle the mental stain of rape. But maybe just maybe if they don't wake up every morning to child they did not want maybe there life will be easer. But like I said it is my body to do what I want with.
Spooky, I'm not trying to be insulting, but according to your logic based on your previous comments, the following statements would be true:
#1. If a person is going to suffer in this life, they should be killed.
#2. If a person is concieved as a result of a rape, it is assumed that they will suffer and therefore they should be killed.
#3. A woman cannot love her child if the father of the child raped her.
#4. Every person that is born is just part of their mother's body. By your own logic, a woman has the right to kill her twenty-eight year old son because he came from her "own" body.
#5. "Person A" has the right to kill "Person B" if it makes "Person A"s life easier.
#6. If a woman is too young to become a mother, rather than give up her child at a hospital or adoption agency, the more suitable alternative is to kill the child.
#7. No one has the right to tell you that killing is wrong. "Each to their own," or something to that effect...
I understand that you are trying to save the baby from suffering and hardships, but killing them isn't the answer. Everyone suffers their own harships because that's a part of life. Some have it worse than others. But who are we to judge whether or not they are capable of living a good life because of their difficulties?
I must inform you that your logic is flawed. Killing a baby while still in the womb is absolutely no different than leaving a baby in a dumpster to die. But some babys that have been left in a dumpster to die have been found. Some with AIDS, some as a result of rape, some in such bad shape that they have had to have major surgeries to survive. And many of these people who started life like that have gone on to live extrordinary lives. Happy lives. With dignity. And pain and suffering. Full lives. If they had been killed, they would not have had the chance to live their lives. They wouldn't have been able to make the choice for themselves whether their life was "worth it" or not. I say, let the child live and grow up and if you still think that they shouldn't be alive, then let them to decide to put a bullet in their brain. But give them the chance to decide for themselves instead of taking away their basic human dignity: their right to free will.
I realize that you (or someone else) will probably just respond to this by swearing at me and calling me names and saying that I'm an idiot and such. And many of these responses will probably contain numerous spelling and punctuation errors. But I put it out there, and if anyone gets anything out of it, than it was worth it.
(P.S. Ali G is an idiot and a non-entity. He has nothing to say. Never has, never will.)
beaufordjohnson I did have a nice long response for your distorted and fucked up view of spooky's comments, but then I realised...I don't give a fuck! The truth is everyone is in charge of their own life and have the right to make their own decisions in the best interests of firstly themselves, their family and friends, and the society they live in. Anyone with half a brain wouldn't have taken spooky's comments as you did as mostly it is a cop out and a pretty stock standard response from pro lifers/anti abortionists and it is getting rather old.
So it's "Right to free will" you're preaching as well? Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy there? Where was the womans "free will" to live as a human being when she was raped? where was her right to "free will" when you muppets are screaming at her on the walk to the abortion clinic? where is her "right to free will" to contribute to society in the best way she can (minus a bastard kid).
When are you hyprocits going to turn your efforts to those truly bad people who are doing the abusing, raping, and murdering instead of the victims?
PS You must have gone to university I can tell...how else would you know how to use the Spell Checker...I wonder if it was the same one as me you high and mighty fuckstick
There is no need to get so angry. We are not here on earth to attack each other personally, we are here to learn from each other. There is nothing wrong with considering what someone else has to say even if they dissagree with you. If you dissagree with what they have to say, either respectfully explain your possition, or ignore them. If you think anyone out there will benefit from what you have to say, go ahead and say it. But there is really no need to get disrespectful. That doesn't make anyone understand you better. With that said, I will now adress "Snowy's" comments.
"When are you hyprocits going to turn your efforts to those truly bad people who are doing the abusing, raping, and murdering instead of the victims? "
I am defending the victims of wrongful death, pure and simple. Two wrongs don't make a right. It doesn't make sense to murder a child as a response to a rape. The child didn't do anything wrong. If the woman kills the child, it just means that she doesn't respect or charish the value of human life any more than the guy who raped her did.
"Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy there? Where was the womans "free will" to live as a human being when she was raped?"
Yes, her life was violated when she was raped. Must she respond by violating that child's life?
"where was her right to "free will" when you muppets are screaming at her on the walk to the abortion clinic?"
For one thing, I am not a muppet. Nor do I scream at women in front of abortion clinics. I have never done that. It is not effective. It only makes the woman defensive and feel worse, which doesn't do anyone any good, including her child. But what most people never take the effort to do is understand WHY those people are out there doing that. It is important to understand that they are not out there because they "hate" the woman or are only trying to make the woman feel bad about herself in and of itself; but they are trying to save the lives of the babies. That's all. They're just misguided in the way they go about doing it. They use guilt and fear as a way to try to get the women to make a decision. That's terrorism. The only way to bring about a positive change is through understanding and compassion. Not through violence and terrorism. I can assure you, I am not one of those people.
"you high and mighty fuckstick"
It is really not necessary to call me a "fuckstick." I am presenting a different view and that makes me a human being capable of indepentant thought. That doesn't make me a "fuckstick." I did not call "Spooky" a "fuckstick", I merely presented a different view. Although I have a different view than him, I didn't call him any names, just as I am not calling you any names. I am past the point in my life where I feel that name calling is effective. My opinion has not changed because you called me a name. Past the age of six or seven years old, I don't think name calling does much. Although I think that "fuckstick" is a rather funny word, I can assure you that I am not one of those either. It is fun to say, though.
I know, I know. You think it's hilarious. I can understand the humor. I was three years old once myself.
If you don't like my comments, then don't read them. Just sit on you rear end for the rest of your sad pointless life and laugh your head off while the rest of the world attempts to restore itself. I know that the fact that the video is "hilarious" to you is more important that the gravity of the issues at hand. I guess you're right. It's probably better to shelter you from having to contribute to anything bigger than yourself. You should stay in your own little world where things like this are funny so that you don't poop your little pants when you figure out what's really going on. I wouldn't want the smallest hint of seriousness to enter your pea brain. Wouldn't want to do anything to wipe that ignorant grin off your face!
Beaufordjohnson - I should have said, "No matter what one's stance on abortion, this video is hilarious". My comment was not meant towards you - it just happened to follow yours, and I did not (and still haven't) bothered to read your comment. But thanks for running me down because I saw some humour in a situation. This is not a video discussing the morality of abortion or abortion rights. It is a farce. Lighten up.
For the record, I am against abortions. I have children of my own. But I also cannot stand all the preachy fuckers who shove their opinions down others throats, and wrap up their beliefs in righteous religious indignation and moral superiority. I am just guessing without reading your first comment that you are one of those.
My appologies to you, good sir. You got me all wrong. (Although you're right, I am a "preachy f**ker"...) I appreciate your taking the time to respond. And you're right to say that it's wrong for people to misuse religion to push their own agendas. That's what gives religion a bad name and turns people off to it. That's certainly not what Christianity is about. (Other religions, I don't know.)
Anyway, I just like to stir things up. I did not mean to attack you personally. Good being assertive. My hat's off to you.
P.S. If you would like, go back and read the whole thread. You may see the humor.
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